Phillip J Eby on ZoPe's niche/FoCus among other Python Web Framework-s: Zope is a thing that helps you make sites, mostly without coding. Which is heresy enough to start with, but when you add in the fact that it tends to make life rather difficult when you do have to start coding something, then I suppose it's not surprising that most of the Python community pretends it doesn't exist. Unfortunately, although Zope 3 "gets it right", it's fairly clear that it will remain a rather niche web framework in the Python world at large. The jobs for which it is manifestly "the right tool" remain primarily in the arena of difficult content management applications (CMS). Luckily for Zope Corp., this is a profitable Market Segment to be in.

Jan'2007 update: Eby wrote a foreword for a book on ZoPe v3 ISBN:3540338071 that still isn't out yet. And it doesn't matter if you don't plan to actually use Zope. Frankly, I haven't used Zope in years. But the lessons I learned from Zope, I use constantly.

• Bill De Hora notes Every time i look at Z3, I think of JaVa, and in particular, Spring and [OSGi]. Conclusion - really big code bases need PlugIn and [Inter Face] architecture.

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